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puppi · Apr 11, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Hello everybody,
I am trying to create a Barrage build and I have a doubt about rate of fire with different bows:

if Barrage recharge time is 1 second and I activate it every time as soon as it recharges..does the rate of fire from the bow I am using matters? I haven't had time to test this with dummies but in the past I've read that rate of fire for a weapon is based on the "normal" (=space bar, or double click) attack, and it's a completely different matter if you're activating skills or spells.

Thanks in advance for any kind of info about this!

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 11, 2009, 04:44 PM // 16:44

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bow

gives attack intervals, ranges, flight times, arc sizes all in one easy to read chart ;-)

Zzes Tyan · Apr 11, 2009, 06:04 PM // 18:04

attack speed doesnt matter with barrage, but arc does, in other words, dont use a flat bow unless you have Favorable Winds, Recurve, Horn, and Shorbows work nicely though

Caelus The Fallen · Apr 11, 2009, 06:06 PM // 18:06

I thinik the answer you are looking for is here:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Attack_skill

specifially:
"If an attack skill does not specify an activation time, it takes as long to activate as it does to make an attack. "

Bow speed does matter, as Barrage has no listed activation time.

Archress Shayleigh · Apr 11, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Use recurve bow. The attack time is 1 attk / 1 sec which means you can make EVERY single attack of yours a Barrage. Only works with recurve bows.

MisterB · Apr 11, 2009, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh

Use recurve bow. The attack time is 1 attk / 1 sec which means you can make EVERY single attack of yours a Barrage. Only works with recurve bows.

That is false. See the post above yours. Someone did a test of all the bow types here with total number of Barrages/minute. The results paralleled refire rates of all the different bow types. So a recurve is second best in # of Barrages/minute. You can repeat the test yourself.

Taurean · Apr 12, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11

I don't see anywhere in that link where someone did a test with barrage..? Am i missing something? I just see the original bow page on gw wiki.

MisterB · Apr 12, 2009, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurean

I don't see anywhere in that link where someone did a test with barrage..? Am i missing something? I just see the original bow page on gw wiki.

No, the test was posted here on Guru by one of the mods. I think you missed the bit where you can repeat the test results yourself. The reason I referred to that particular post was because it explains that attack skills without an activation time use the weapon's attack rate. Knowing this, it follows that weapons with a faster attack rate will activate Barrage more quickly, resulting in more Barrages/minute. Since recurve class bows are second best at attack rate, they are not the bow you would choose if you want to spam as many Barrages as possible. Flatbows and shortbows would be the fastest. I hope that sufficiently explains my response.

puppi · Apr 12, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Thanks for all the info! It's way more clear now..I understand most of this subject has been analysed in this thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=136832

which I obviously missed before starting this one. Sorry about that! It really contains a lot of information..seems like there is still a "dark zone" of doubt and personal/situational matters, which is what a RPG has to be good about to avoid "maths playing".

Regardless, there's a lot of good testing that definitely makes it a lot easier to understand.

-A

Daenara · Apr 13, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Well, seeing as this has already been answered..